Bungi Bill

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  "Go and tell someone who cares...I dont care!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i don't usually like the confrontational approach to those on the carts, however this video is a great example of how jws do not really care about child abuse issues!.

  the arrogance of this brother is disturbing..... bear with the video.

  it gets really interesting around the 6 min mark, where the brother loses his cool.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5chulnnyqs.

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  Bungi Bill

  Well-intentioned but long-winded.
  The JW raised an important question when he got a word in but the ex-JW deflected it.

  He was something of a "motormouth", wasn't he!
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  "Go and tell someone who cares...I dont care!"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i don't usually like the confrontational approach to those on the carts, however this video is a great example of how jws do not really care about child abuse issues!.

  the arrogance of this brother is disturbing..... bear with the video.

  it gets really interesting around the 6 min mark, where the brother loses his cool.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5chulnnyqs.

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  Bungi Bill

  cofty,

  Correct on both counts!

  The guy doing most of the talking didn't exactly come over as the sharpest tool in the shed. In fact, he carried the impression of being somebody who had perhaps a fact or two at his disposal, while the rest just sort of dribbled out:

  - e.g. "Andrew" Jackson - I thought he was the seventh president of the USA!

  One can say all sorts of things, but unless documented evidence is presented to back it up, it is unlikely to make much of an impression (much like W.Schnell's 30 Years a Watchtower Slave).

  Good entertainment for the peanut gallery, though; and if he intended to embarrass the JW guy, then he certainly succeeded!
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  I want to understand British references to your countries.

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, friends across the two ponds:.

  of course, as per other posters' recommendations, i could google this; i have and remain, not totally confused, but wanting the straight dope as well as nuanced meaning.

  i'm both curious and needing to know for purposes of editing works of american and british writers.

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  Bungi Bill

  The term "Commonwealth" has very little relevance.

  It ceased even being called the "British Commonwealth" as long ago as 1949, and some of its members (e.g. Rwanda, Mozambique and Cameroon) were never British territories prior to independence. "Commonwealth" is definitely not a term of national identity; not even close, in fact!
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  My childhood home, 60 years later. What about yours?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, former children:.

  i really miss my childhood home, which we left in 1960. dad sold it for some 12,000 dollars; it recently sold for somewhere under 1.5 million.

  it's only a tiny bungalow but in a prosperous bay area town, not too far from san francisco, california.. the art and literature that are so important to me -- and for many others of us -- got their start in my heart and mind here in the california mountains.

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  Bungi Bill

  The place where I grew up has long since become a ghost town (direct result of a phenomenon called "Rogernomics"), and the house I grew up in was sold off for removal. I have no idea where the relocated building now sits. However, I still frequently have dreams of the old place - particularly as my fortunes have declined somewhat over these last few years!
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  Are You An Angry Exjw At This Point In Your Life?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’ve been here for many years.

  the tone seems to be different in this place.

  not so many pissed off exjws .

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  Bungi Bill

  I like to think that I got past the "angry" stage quite a number of years ago now.
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  Manmade rules

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was talking to someone a few years ago and he said in his congregation they have a rail of white shirts prepared in the cloakroom for if a speaker doesn't have a white shirt on.

  it was a rule in their hall that all brothers in the platform must wear white shirts when going talks and if the speaker won't comply when asked to change into the shirt they provide an elder in the congregation will do the talk instead.

  i have never known any other halls do it so it must be a rule the elders have made up without gb input.

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  Bungi Bill

  I was in one congregation in which the elders decided to "lift the tone" of things by insisting that men wear jackets at all times while engaging in field service. This in a location in which summertime temperatures frequently exceed 30 degrees Celsius; and in which the community in general would regard you as being barking mad if you did not remove your coat!

  In another circuit during the late 1980s, all those desiring to get "get appointed" were required to not just make the "national average", but to exceed it. Would-be Ministerial Servants had to report at least 12 hours a month, while servants who hoped appointment as Elder had to report at least 15 hours a month. All congregations in that circuit were spilling over with publishers, and we were covering the territory in less than a month. In fact, during the Circuit Overseer's visit, coverage was more like once a week. People were (not surprisingly) heartily sick of us always being at their doors. By the time I left, the list of "Do Not Calls" almost exceeded the number of homes it was okay to call at! Also, the official stance of the WTS that you "worked a territory to life, NOT to death" proved to be quite untrue. Nontheless, the iron-clad rule remained, "Thou shalt report 12 hours a month". Not written anywhere in the Bible, though. (Certainly nowhere that I could see, anyway!)
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  "Reaching out" in the org and personal confessions...

  by Good JW in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  going to be completely honest here, no feelings spared for me.

  when i was a jw, one of my biggest motivations for "reaching out" was to become a "somebody".

  i loved the idea of being a leader, teaching/training others.

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  Bungi Bill

  However I do think that unless you are made fully aware of the human desire to be prominent, and until you have been almost at rock bottom, you won't serve any community very well (or at least not get to your potential).

  Very true. As my late father was wont to say " Before you can give orders, you have to learn to take them."
  That truth is something you really appreciate if you have ever worked under Managers / Supervisors etc who had never first learned "to take orders".
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  Do You Know Any “Gay” Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  of course the religion condemns homosexuality but did you know any gay witnesses?

  i knew some bethelites that were very effeminate and i remember 4 women who were suspected of being lesbians by many in the congregation.

  they eventually moved away and were very vocal against males, especially elders..

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  Bungi Bill

  I have, both practising and latent.

  The practising one was the recipient of much action by Judical Committee.

  The other two were a former lesbian couple, probably no longer practising, but who still lived together and exhibited much of the signs of their "former way of life." Those, however, would almost fill a book all on their own, and I don't intend to start now!
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  Russia is Smart

  by Kohanic in

  1. social
  2. current

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhnseocpffq.

  so according to the law department's meeting in feb 2016, russia has been studying the linguistics of the watchtower articles and discovered its brainwashing abilities!.

  lol it's funny now that i'm on the russian side of this debate now, ban them all!.

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  Bungi Bill

  As they say "It takes one to know one".

  Russia (at least when it was the old Soviet Union) made mind-control an art form.

  If they say that the WTS is all about mind control, then it must be right!
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  Since leaving the JW Organization, who is believing?

  by Issa in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i left the jw organization last year during summer.

  maybe some of you can relate.

  who of you are agnostic or an atheist?

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  Bungi Bill

  The term "Religioned Out" best describes my current situation.